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Blu · Mar 06, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Looking good so far. You might want to consider posting the BHA + Splinter Volley build as it works well.

Divinus Stella · Mar 31, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Found a good guide here.

http://itreason.forumotion.com/spams...anger-t129.htm

One of the better rangers about, helped me a lot with playing ranger.

Cebe · Apr 14, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42

BB Code Updated. Please let me know if you find any errors.

Thanks

Orange Milk · Apr 17, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

First off LOL at Ursan as a "Ranger build" and TBH I really don't like any of those builds as they are llsektorll

However I do agree with the [skill]Dwarven Stability[/skill] note.

Rangers have THE best stances in GW, Dwarven Stability should become a Rangers Best Friend. There are other PvE only skils that could make mention in that section due to how well they sinergize with Ranger skills.

Also, despite the fact that it is a Trap [skill]Black Powder Mine[/skill] it is not effected by Ranger expetise and costs the full 10e, anyone know if ALL PvE Only attack skills are like that? They only PvE Only Attack I use is [skill]Whirlwind Attack[/skilll] so I don't know.

Kereminde · May 13, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

You have a typo in "Cann of Protection" . . . unless you're talking about a Warrior to take damage for you . . .

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 09, 2008, 08:48 AM // 08:48

[crippling [email protected]][distracting [email protected]][savage [email protected]][apply [email protected]][mending [email protected]][natural [email protected]][troll [email protected]][resurrection signet]
not seeing this bar in the guide made me sad

nice guide overall, i think it really could use more emphasis on the POWAH of cripshot rangers :P.
it may be in there but i dont recall reading anything intended to drill the fact that dshot is god into ppls heads.
but thats just me being critical, as i said, nice guide

Cebe · Jun 09, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

[crippling [email protected]][distracting [email protected]][savage [email protected]][apply [email protected]][mending [email protected]][natural [email protected]][troll [email protected]][resurrection signet]
not seeing this bar in the guide made me sad

nice guide overall, i think it really could use more emphasis on the POWAH of cripshot rangers :P.

That is the "Classic Alliance Battle Skirmisher". You can basically switch out Crip Shot for BA or BHA, depending how you want to play...but they're all the same basic core build. The notes for that build do mention Crip Shot as a potential Elite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kereminde

You have a typo in "Cann of Protection"

Thanks, fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

t may be in there but i dont recall reading anything intended to drill the fact that dshot is god into ppls heads.

Added a bit. It's quite...obvious.

ALF71BE · Jun 18, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Needs moar [ebon dust aura] + [volley], and moar [lightning reflexes] + [dwarven stability].

clarke · Aug 03, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

rangers are never around to deal damage

Never seen rspike?!

Spike Stritter · Nov 11, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

loving the guide
just one thing i didnt see, Insignias
which insignias should i use for the types of builds you added (Marksmanship,Beastmastery, and PvP)

Thanks!

moriz · Nov 11, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarke

Never seen rspike?!

way to comment on posts 5 months later.

Cebe · Nov 14, 2008, 12:50 PM // 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Stritter

loving the guide
just one thing i didnt see, Insignias
which insignias should i use for the types of builds you added (Marksmanship,Beastmastery, and PvP)

Thanks!

Survivor is always good, but if you're wanting +armour I'd maybe fo got Scout's when playing Marksman, or Beastmaster's when playing with a pet.

Paul Dawg · Jan 26, 2009, 07:51 AM // 07:51

I have a question about this part:

"This build is often used with [barrage], however, [volley] works just as well, for those who own Eye of the North, and frees up your Elite slot for whatever skill you would rather take in its place."

Volley doesn't work "just as well." It attacks only three targets; its recharge time is twice as long (long enough that you can't spam it with every shot); and it does significantly less damage. So the question is whether the added benefit of a different elite really outweighs the firepower that you lose by choosing [volley] over a full-blown [barrage]. Where do experience ranger players stand on that trade-off? And which approach is better for heroes?

Age · Jan 26, 2009, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Splinter Weapon and Nightmare.

Cebe · Feb 04, 2009, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

Volley doesn't work "just as well." It attacks only three targets; its recharge time is twice as long (long enough that you can't spam it with every shot); and it does significantly less damage. So the question is whether the added benefit of a different elite really outweighs the firepower that you lose by choosing [volley] over a full-blown [barrage]. Where do experience ranger players stand on that trade-off? And which approach is better for heroes?

Unless you spend all your life trying to bunch up foes to Barrage, you only tend to be able to hit 3 or 4 anyway for the most part, making Volley perfectly suitable for use with Splinter Weapon. It's more than that though, you have to decide if given Volley is available, is Barrage worth it's elite slot? In my view: No. The additional damage you will deal with Barrage does not outweigh it's Elite status in that build when Volley is available. Other elites usually provide much more utility, or a greater variety of build usage than Barrage.

I'm not saying there aren't areas of the game where you wouldn't want to take Barrage, but for the majority of the time, I'd rather my Elite gave me another use rather than just spamming an AoE attack that in most circumstances wont hit all 6 foes anyway.

Paul Dawg · Feb 11, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Makes sense. Which elite would you use though? [expert's dexterity]? [burning arrow]?

Qing Guang · May 10, 2009, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Wow, waaay after this was originally posted, but thanks for the guide. Prior to making this latest chara, I've never strayed too far from casting profs (derv was the furthest I got), and was really at a loss with regards to what I was doing (my first 2 PvP-only attempts at rangers were abject failures). I'd changed my mind shortly before buying the slot about what kind of ranger I wanted to be, shifting my focus from bow to BM. However, all I'd heard about BMs was "lololol BMs /fail just go BHA," and quite frankly I've played this game enough that I'm more interested in developing a character (especially as an RP chara) than making the most efficient build out there. This guide has helped me sort out a lot - I think I actually know where I'm going now. Thank you.

wiz12268 · Jul 02, 2009, 08:35 AM // 08:35

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Originally Posted by Cebe

Unless you spend all your life trying to bunch up foes to Barrage, you only tend to be able to hit 3 or 4 anyway for the most part, making Volley perfectly suitable for use with Splinter Weapon. It's more than that though, you have to decide if given Volley is available, is Barrage worth it's elite slot? In my view: No. The additional damage you will deal with Barrage does not outweigh it's Elite status in that build when Volley is available. Other elites usually provide much more utility, or a greater variety of build usage than Barrage.

I'm not saying there aren't areas of the game where you wouldn't want to take Barrage, but for the majority of the time, I'd rather my Elite gave me another use rather than just spamming an AoE attack that in most circumstances wont hit all 6 foes anyway.

I know this is old thread, but the one second recharge alone makes barrage twice as good as volley. Because it can be used twice as often. And unless you are on a lightspeed ISP you can basically spam barrage as fast as you can click it.

So while your targets might not be bunched up there isn't any skill in the game on any class that you can spam like you can barrage. At least one that does the damage it can do. And with the energy reduction it is free with a zealous string, and most of the time you gain energy. Although volley will do tha also, it can't be spammed.

Illoyon · Nov 22, 2009, 01:30 PM // 13:30

it should be mentioned that R/D with scythe and [Wounding Strike] is way better than [Barrage] (or any bow Build...outside of tank and spank)...like nearly every non-caster. so there are not just a few useful skills...its the best way to be op in pve.
example build...

[build prof=R/D bea=10+1 exp=10+1+2 scy=11][Wounding Strike][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Asuran Scan][Scavenger Strike][Never Rampage Alone][Aura of Holy Might (Kurzick)][Comfort Animal][/build]

PurpleFission · Nov 22, 2010, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Barrage can be useful in almost any situation, whereas a scythe spammer isnt.
Barrage is very effective at spamming SY!, great with para shouts, splinter barrage(ofc) and pretty much anything else.
The one con is the range, adjacent seems too small, but nearby is a little too big imo.